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Posted 9/28/2008 12:38:48 PM


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Okay this was my first summer with a boat and fishing offshore on my own.(I'm glad I got a single outboard and a light hull since fuel went up so darn much)

Why in the world do our fishing regualtions require us to feed 90% of all throwback, undersize fish to the dolphins?

It's beyond my understanding how this is not considered in the regulations, We use circle hooks, vent the fish, revive the fish, release the fish. 99% are eatin within 5 seconds

We need to invent some flipper repellent, a sonar blaster that you hang off your boat and

sends a signal that the dolphin can't stand.

Just how stupid can fishing regulations get?

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Posted 9/28/2008 12:49:50 PM


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$hits pretty stupid isnt it. I DONT GET IT EITHER...One day they will get someone like Paul Redman in office and we will be able to fish and put back to the fishery.

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Posted 9/28/2008 1:30:49 PM


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Years ago I was fortunate to be invited out (2 days back to back) fishing (we went as far as about 90 miles...my first way out trip) with Daniel Meredith of Meredith Lumber Company...and a great guy. On the day one of that weekend I learned something from Daniel....I thought the same...why in the hell are we throwing snapper back and flipper gets a free meal. Here is what Daniel passed to me. Flipper will eat...he won't go hungry..believe me he won't. Would you rather feed flipper the shorts, or would you rather have flipper go after what he wants....Feed flipper the shorts and let him get full and he will not be tempted to get "KEEPERS" that day. Flipper will have NO problem catching the 10#ers and up. Flipper won't eat all that is thrown back...when he gets full mealtime is over. So to this day I don't care if flipper eats my throwbacks.... If your Mother cooks a meal, and invites you over, what would you most likely do..go to her house and eat or open your full refrigerator and cook a whole meal. 

Remember......WE are the ones out there taking HIS food from him. We are the ones raiding and raping his home.

Compare flipper with the entitlement (damn I hate that word) programs we have...Now which one pisses you off the most.

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Posted 9/28/2008 1:46:41 PM
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very well put tuna man... I like that way of thinking... but either way, it will still piss everyone off when the dolphins do hang around
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Posted 9/28/2008 5:05:59 PM


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Feed flipper the shorts and let him get full and he will not be tempted to get "KEEPERS" that day.


Last year I had a Flipper from Hell show up. There was already one there looking for a free meal.

Well Flipper from Hell was not satisfied. 3 times in a row he took the legal fish off the line and tore the rig up. Needless to say we were pissed.





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Posted 9/28/2008 7:55:45 PM


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Feed flipper the shorts and let him get full and he will not be tempted to get "KEEPERS" that day.


Last year I had a Flipper from Hell show up. There was already one there looking for a free meal.

Well Flipper from Hell was not satisfied. 3 times in a row he took the legal fish off the line and tore the rig up. Needless to say we were pissed.

Yea some days are like that, and I can see why you were pissed...but we taught them well.

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Posted 9/28/2008 8:09:55 PM


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when flipper shows up it's a good time to take a lunch break. if you are not fishing he will go way. and if he don't you can take a ride to another spot and come back to that one later when he is gone. works for me. but like ron i don't mind flipper getting a couple. but ya it s*cks when you work hard for a fish and he takes it five feet from the boat! it's makes fishing a little harder when you add flipper to it. owell it's always something. we still live in the best fishing in fl. fish on!!!!!!!

 

 

 

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Posted 9/28/2008 8:13:05 PM


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Flipper is a problem. Those dolphins dont just eat the throwbacks, they eat fish on the line too! Lots of good kings are lost to flipper at the pier.


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Posted 9/28/2008 8:15:53 PM


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I propose a one day open season on dolphins.

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Posted 9/28/2008 8:16:34 PM


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i'm told this works.... never tried it before though...

take a 20 oz. coke bottle and fill it 1/4th full of water (saltwater is fine...) tie a piece of  mono on to it and tie 2 16oz leads to it... put the heater from an MRE in it and tighten the cap and toss it over the side...

kaboom.

***this is a joke*** but it might work???... but then again, you're littering...

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Posted 9/28/2008 9:48:45 PM


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i'm told this works.... never tried it before though...

take a 20 oz. coke bottle and fill it 1/4th full of water (saltwater is fine...) tie a piece of  mono on to it and tie 2 16oz leads to it... put the heater from an MRE in it and tighten the cap and toss it over the side...

kaboom.

***this is a joke*** but it might work???... but then again, you're littering...

 

A little muratic acid and rolled up alumium foil will do the trick too!  Same boom but it takes a few seconds longer.  Also, the small Gatoraid bottles with the orange screw in top work better because they are thicker and will build up more pressure (bigger boom).

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Posted 9/28/2008 9:53:14 PM


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i'm told this works.... never tried it before though...

take a 20 oz. coke bottle and fill it 1/4th full of water (saltwater is fine...) tie a piece of  mono on to it and tie 2 16oz leads to it... put the heater from an MRE in it and tighten the cap and toss it over the side...

kaboom.

***this is a joke*** but it might work???... but then again, you're littering...

 A little muratic acid and rolled up alumium foil will do the trick too!  Same boom but it takes a few seconds longer.  Also, the small Gatoraid bottles with the orange screw in top work better because they are thicker and will build up more pressure (bigger boom).

you got that right about the gatoraide bottle... i've had the cops show up at the house after a hurricane... they thought we were shootin at people...

i said, nope... just bored.

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Posted 9/30/2008 9:31:49 AM


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It seems like there are even more of them this summer. Sunday I saw three different huge pods of them of 15 or more in each pod. It was almost like they came towards the boat looking for a free meal.
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Posted 9/30/2008 9:44:59 AM


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It seems like there are even more of them this summer. Sunday I saw three different huge pods of them of 15 or more in each pod. It was almost like they came towards the boat looking for a free meal.

How about this POD?



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Posted 9/30/2008 10:26:08 AM
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The porpoise are not going to get their fill and leave you alone. As soon as they show up for a snapper meal just vent the snapper, put him in the livewell and take off. You usually have to pick a spot 3-4 miles away to shake them. It is a pain in the rear to do this but I will never feed a snapper to a porpoise.
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Posted 9/30/2008 10:47:24 AM


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The porpoise are not going to get their fill and leave you alone. As soon as they show up for a snapper meal just vent the snapper, put him in the livewell and take off. You usually have to pick a spot 3-4 miles away to shake them. It is a pain in the rear to do this but I will never feed a snapper to a porpoise.

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Posted 9/30/2008 11:10:38 AM


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That's a very good way to look at the situation, Tuna Man.  I will try to remember that next time I'm out fishing and a dolphin comes along. 

I must admit, though, that I still think if we raised the bag limit and reduced the size limit - within reason - we would have a healthier fishery and happier recreational anglers.  Not to mention fewer instances of "feeding the dolphins."

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Posted 9/30/2008 1:23:44 PM


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That's a very good way to look at the situation, Tuna Man.  I will try to remember that next time I'm out fishing and a dolphin comes along. 

I must admit, though, that I still think if we raised the bag limit and reduced the size limit - within reason - we would have a healthier fishery and happier recreational anglers.  Not to mention fewer instances of "feeding the dolphins."

It wouldn't make any difference....Lets say the creel was 6, and lets say any size, as an example. MOST fishermen on the water would keep their six, all on ice and DEAD. Now the 7th comes aboard and out goes the smallest one...DEAD anyway and ZERO chance of survival. Then the 8th, 9th, 10th etc. Don't get me wrong, I hate to lose a good fish to flipper or the man in the grey suit, but they didn't survive by only eating our throwbacks, or our hooked fish. The amount they take from us is minimal compared to what they eat in a day.

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Posted 9/30/2008 5:34:00 PM


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  It wouldn't make any difference....Lets say the creel was 6, and lets say any size, as an example. MOST fishermen on the water would keep their six, all on ice and DEAD.

Yeah, I see what you're saying.  Although, the operative word is "MOST".  My logic, although probably naive on my part, is that the angler would actually stop fishing for said species when they reached their limit and move on to another species.

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Posted 9/30/2008 8:07:53 PM


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  It wouldn't make any difference....Lets say the creel was 6, and lets say any size, as an example. MOST fishermen on the water would keep their six, all on ice and DEAD.

Yeah, I see what you're saying.  Although, the operative word is "MOST".  My logic, although probably naive on my part, is that the angler would actually stop fishing for said species when they reached their limit and move on to another species.

 

 

exactly what most sportsmen would do, bag thier limit and move on

the closed seasons in federal and state waters, doesn't save the resource

it takes it from the fishermen as bycatch and feeds it to flipper

 

I'll coin the new phrase

"recreational red snapper bycatch"

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